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Ron Paul on CNN: Medicare is Broke, Socialized Healthcare will Fail (1 of 2) – August 18, 2009


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38 Responses to “Ron Paul on CNN: Medicare is Broke, Socialized Healthcare will Fail (1 of 2) – August 18, 2009”

  • FishTheMargins:

    Healthcare isn’t expensive, insurance is. Take a look at what you pay in insurance premiums, and then take a look at the payment the insurance companies have negotiated with healthcare providers. Example. Lab tests that “cost” me $284, but the insurance company pays out only $104 to the hospital/lab. If the hospital/lab will accept a mere 36% of the “costs”, why can’t we, as patients negotiate our own payments with the healthcare provider?

  • pholland:

    Not an option. We are forced into the medicare system. We can’t “give something up” that a system that government forces us into.

    Medicare and Social Security ought to be voluntary. Both are already bankrupt.

    I would give up social security and having to pay into it in a heartbeat but it’s illegal.

  • kashaud17:

    every republican who is aganist a public option should just give up thier medicare and thier medicaid and shut up.

  • NYCRailRevolution:

    They are called Dominionists. They are a political movement pretending to be a religious movement. They are very secretive and deeply rooted in society. They are neo-fascists. Their real goal is to wage war on the ghettos after they have manipulated the legal system to legitimize a police state. They are classist and pretend to be anti-socialist at every juncture. They are rich so they are capitalists and they deserve public funds. We are poor so we are communists if we get the same. BS.

  • droogie76:

    hahaha

  • TheManiacalSatanist:

    I know more about ecnonomics than you ever will, and while I do not support Obama’s healthcare plan AT ALL, I’m saying the whole RASHIONING HEALTHCARE argument needs to be taken off of the table due to the rashioning of the private sector.

    Now, with that being said, you attack my religion, call me a creep, yet you can’t type properly nor can you even form a coherent sentence.

    Go take another English class, sipshit, then come talk to me.

  • droogie76:

    yeah real fringe… go take an economics 101 class there little one then start posting maybe you’ll make more sense. Satan worshipper, geez why the hell did I ever respond to a little creep??????

  • TheManiacalSatanist:

    Yes I undetstood what you wrote. You were going off of the fringe about medical care being rashioned by Obama’s plan, except medical care is ALREADY being rashioned by the private sector.

  • droogie76:

    … because they are supplementing gov’t programs that are unsolvent. Its not the only reason but a big one. Did you understand what I wrote? Why would you want gov’t involved in more of our lives? The gov’t has its hand in hindering biotech and pharma companies as well making costs soar as well.

  • TheManiacalSatanist:

    Medical care is ALREADY being rashioned by big insurance companies who aren’t upholding their end of the contract while making record profits in one of the worst recessions ever had.

  • droogie76:

    Does anybody get the fact that private insurance companies are supplementing medicare and medicaid making everybody’s costs sky high? Why aren’t the Conservatives talking about that??? And the only reason is because the gov’t snatches up the funds from those progams as it is!!! Thats why medical care will be rashioned because the gov’t is like a big bloated pig eating everything in the trough.

  • unrealy2k:

    What the Asian Doctor doesn’t mention is who is going to pay for this? Dr. Pauls idea of allowing more competition in the marketplace would work, I mean look at computers as an example one of the markets where competition thrives. Why wouldn’t similar methods in healthcare work?

  • lovehaightorg:

    14 identifying characteristics of fascism

    1. Powerful/Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Military Supremacy 5. Rampant Sexism 6. Controlled Media 7. Obsession with National Security 8. Religion/Government are Intertwined 9. Corporate Power Protected 10. Labor Power Suppressed 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 12. Obsession w/ Crime & Punishment 13. Rampant Cronyism/Corruption 14. Election Fraud

  • TheManiacalSatanist:

    *psssst* You wouldn’t need health insurance in the first place if you didn’t have Big Pharma raping this country to the point of internal bleeding by marking up the cost of their medicines by 3000-15000% from the cost of the ingredients and processes it took to create said medicines in the first place.

  • mnmkidd:

    We need more competition across State lines with the medical insurance companies. Also, patients need to take more responsibility in their health care.

  • popeaustini:

    not dr. paul’s best

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  • jacksmith:

    Alan Grayson Honors The Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV9TRoYMtjs&feature=player_embedded

    I want to commend all of you for working so hard and being so strong at helping the whitehouse and congress begin to address our U.S. and Global healthcare crisis. You have been AWESOME! my fellow Americans and peoples of the World. America and the World is better and safer for it. My greatest pride is the knowledge that I am one of you. And that you really get it. You really understand the importance of it all.

    There are some potentially very good things in the healthcare legislation. Especially with the reconciliation fix’s. The Democrats, Bernie Sanders and the Whitehouse did a GREAT! job of fighting to produce the best healthcare legislation that they could. They have earned all our strong support. And we should give it to them.

    But it was your relentless pressure and hard work that made the difference. Whatever good comes from this healthcare legislation, America and the peoples of the World will have each of you to thank. You were smart, creative, courageous and relentless. You fought together for the best legislation possible. And when you had to, you fought alone. No matter who stumbled and fell you continued to push and forge ahead. Fighting for the lives and health of the American people and the World. YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOUR-SELVES :-)

    It may come to pass that future generations will look back on us and say that we were ALL Americas Greatest Generations. And that healthcare reform was our finest hour. You should be proud of our leaders President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid and the many other Democratic and independent fighters for the people in congress. They proved them-self worthy of the leadership of a GREAT! PEOPLE.

    But we are not done yet. This was just the beginning of healthcare reform, not the end. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, ARE NOT! divided on healthcare legislation. The vast majority of you have been consistently crystal clear that this legislation does not go far enough. You want a strong Government-run Public Option CHOICE!! available to everyone on day one. And you want it NOW!

    YOU MUST NOT ALLOW AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE TO STAND WITHOUT A STRONG GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE! AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.

    WE THE PEOPLE have been crystal clear that we want an end to dependence on for-profit healthcare and the for-profit proxies called private for non-profit healthcare. The American people want the CHOICE! of a strong Government-run Public Option to replace their need or dependence on healthcare providers whose primary motivation is profit. Rather than providing the highest quality, easiest accessible and most affordable medically necessary healthcare possible. This is what the rest of the developed World has. And the American people want it too. They want healthcare ASSURANCE! Not, for-profit health insurance. And they want it NOW!

    Now is the time to continue the push for a strong Government-run Public Option CHOICE! available to everyone that wants it on day one. Rationally it’s clear what we have to do to get this done. SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS that supported you with a Public Option choice, and REMOVE as many republicans as you can. Not one republican in congress was willing to step across the isle to support a strong Government-run Public Option CHOICE!! available to everyone on day one. NOT ONE! Let no candidate prevail this November that does not support a Strong Government-run Public Option.

    47,000 AMERICANS die each year from lack of healthcare. 120,000 die from treatable illness that don’t die in other developed countries. Hundreds of thousands of you are dieing from medical accidents in a rush to profit. And Millions of your are injured. Millions more are driven into bankruptcy. All for the privilege of paying two to three times as much as any other people in the developed world for healthcare. HOGWASH!

    Additionally, tens of thousands of you and your children were killed and millions sickened and injured from a terror attack with H1N1 (swine flu). Released on the American people and the World by the for-profit healthcare industry. All in an attempt to panic and frighten you into accepting the oxymoronic criminal enterprise of private for-profit healthcare (The most costly, deadly, dangerous, and disgraceful product sold in America). H1N1 is still sickening people and killing them. Especially children, the young and the middle aged. And there will be a third wave. These are the terrorist you need to worry about the most. Even the so-called international terrorist would not do something so INSANE! But greed driven medical profiteers would and did.

    Apparently as far as republicans in GOVERNMENT are concerned, YOU! my fellow Americans – CAN JUST DROP DEAD! Including their own family members. Fools!… Hundreds of thousands of you, and possibly millions of you will die from the long-term effects of your infection and poisoning with H1N1.

    So my fellow Human Beings. Rest-up, Take good care of the basics (Balanced nutrition, hydration, exercise, rest and POSITIVE emotional supports). Then wade back into the FIGHT! for a strong Government-run Public Option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one. Drug re-importation, Abolishment or strong restrictions on patents for biologic and prescription drugs. And government controlled and negotiated drug and medical cost. You must take back control of your healthcare system from the Medical Industrial Complex. you MUST do it NOW! This is a matter of National and Global security. There can be NO MORE EXCUSES.

    God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings. I’m glad to know of you. And proud to be one of you.

    See you on the battle field.

    Sincerely

    jacksmith – WorkingClass :-)

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